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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
January 14, 2003	Tom Wilderbuer1, and Nate Mantua2 1NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center 2UW Department of Atmospheric Sciences	Including long-term climate change when defining B0 and in rebuilding projections
February 4, 2003	André Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Understanding fisheries impacts on ecological indicators using simulation
	Anne B. Hollowed NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Incorporating of ecosystem indicators in fisheries advice in Alaskan waters
	Kerim Aydin NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Indicators in comparison to single-species limits
	Wiebke J. Boeing NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	New Metrics for Ecosystem Change: Bio-diversity and Dynamics of Ichthyoplankton Assemblages
	Bernard A. Megrey NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Characterizing the Status of the Subarctic North Pacific Ecosystem and Detecting Climate Change Signals Using Ecosystem Metrics
Febrary 18, 2003	Jim Ianelli NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Projection models and bycatch in North Pacific Groundfish Fisheries
March 4, 2003	Owen Hamel1, and Ian Stewart2 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Pacific Ocean perch stock assessment
June 12, 2003	Teresa A'mar and Andre Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	The ABDs of model selection

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
April 10, 2003	André Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Simulation Testing for Dummies
April 24, 2003	Trevor Branch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	What impacts would Individual Transferable Quotas have on the US West Coast groundfish fishery?
May 8, 2003	Steven Hare International Pacific Halibut Commission	Conditional Constant Catch Policy for Managing the Pacific Halibut Fishery
May 22, 2003	Rick Methot NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	NOAA Fisheries Toolbox
June 12, 2003	Melissa Haltuch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Modeling human, climate, and habitat impacts on Pacific Northwest groundfish abstract
	Jason Cope UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Stock Assessments and Emerging Fisheries: Population dynamics of Pacific Northwest nearshore fishes abstract

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
Januar 22, 2004	Arni Magnusson UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	What is it in fisheries data that tells us about population abundance? abstract
February 5, 2004	Carolina V. Minte-Vera UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Practical application of meta-analysis results - avoiding the double use of data
	Kimberly S. Dietrich UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Factors Influencing Seabird Bycatch in Alaska Longline Fisheries
	Susan Wang UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Groundfish habitat associations from video survey with a submersible off the Washington state coast.
	Jason M. Cope UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Potential Indices of Abundance for West Coast Nearshore Fishes
	Melissa Haltuch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Applying Ecological Indicators for Fishery Management: The U.S. West Coast
February 19, 2004	Jody Little UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Sustainability science meets our West Coast fisheries abstract

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
April 27, 2004	André Punt, Jason Cope*, and Melissa Haltuch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Reference Points and Decision Rules in US. Federal Fisheries: West Coast Groundfish Experiences abstract
	Richard Little, Tony Smith, Francis Pantus, Andre Punt*, Bruce Mapstone, and Campbell Davies, and David McDonald CSIRO Marine Research	Size, Configuration and the Impacts of Boundary Infringements In Marine Protected Areas abstract
	Trevor Branch* and Kate Rutherford UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Lower discards under Individual Transferable Quotas: a comparison between groundfish fisheries off British Columbia and the U.S. West Coast
May 20, 2004	Teresa A'mar UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Estimating hypervariances using ADMB
	Rick Methot NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	The role of bias-correction when combining equilibrium and stochastic recruitment models abstract
	André Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Are bias-correction factors biased abstract

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
October 13, 2004	Ian Taylor UW QERM and School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Issues in Metapopulation Modeling abstract
October 20, 2004	Arni Magnusson UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Information about stock abundance: Data, models, and assumptions abstract
November 3, 2004	Trevor Branch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Good and ugly multispecies fisheries: ITQs in British Columbia versus retention limits on the U.S. West Coast abstract
	Lucy Flynn UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Examining the screenplay: the myth of the free market and the consequences for economic efficiency in American fisheries abstract
	Ray Hilborn UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Moving beyond MSY: making Alaska's salmon fisheries socially and economically sustainable abstract
November 17, 2004	Rick Methot1, Melissa Haltuch2, Libby Logerwell, Michael Schirripa1, and Pete Lawson1 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 3NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Using environmental data in stock assessments
December 1, 2004	Ian Stewart NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Under the hood: sources, preparation and external data analysis for a West Coast groundfish stock assessment abstract

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
January 12, 2005	Stacey Miller NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Defining the first year of an assessment
February 9, 2005	André Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Progress towards rebuilding abstract
February 23, 2005	Melissa Haltuch UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Petrale sole stock assessment
March 9, 2005	Ian Stewart NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	English sole stock assessment

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
March 30 UW Fisheries 203	Jason Cope UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Cabezon Assessment
April 13 UW Fisheries 106	Tom Helser NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Analysis of survey data using GLMMs: dealing with the "complete survey" abstract
April 27 NWFSC Auditorium	Arni Magnusson UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Measuring uncertainty in age-structured fisheries stock assessment models using MCMC, bootstrap, and Hessian methods abstract
May 11 UW Fisheries 203	Gavin Fay UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Longspine Thornyhead Assessment

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
October 5 NWFSC Auditorium	André Punt1, Judy Zeh2, and Ray Hilborn1 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2UW Statistics Department abstract	A discussion of the science and policy interface
October 14, 1:30-3:30 *note day/time change! UW Fisheries 203	Trevor Branch1, Ray Hilborn2, and Jim Ianelli3 1University of Cape Town, South Africa 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 3Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Current state of the science and issues regarding the Commission for the Conservation of Southern Bluefin Tuna
November 2 NWFSC Auditorium	Isaac Kaplan Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Atlantis: An integrated ecosystem model for the West Coast
November 16 UW Fisheries 203	André Punt1, and Rick Methot2 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Including MPAs in fisheries stock assessment
November 30 UW Fisheries 203	Mark Scheuerell NOAA, Northwest Fisheries Science Center abstract	The SHIRAZ model: a tool for incorporating anthropogenic effects and fish-habitat relationships in conservation planning

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
January 11 NWFSC Auditorium	Richard Methot NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	A Stock Synthesis II debrief
January 25 NWFSC Auditorium	Sarah Gaichas 1, Vladlena Gertseva2 1NOAA, Alaska Fisheries Science Center 2Cooperative Institute for Marine Resources Studies, Oregon State University	Issues and Best Methods for Skate Stock Assessment
February 8 NWFSC Room 370W	Jason Cope and Gavin Fay UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science	How can we better deal with process errors in stock assessments
February 22 UW Fisheries 203	Kerim Aydin 1NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Ecosystem Modeling at the AFSC
March 8 NWFSC Auditorium	Andre Punt1, Kevin Piner2, and Jason Cope1 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2NOAA Southwest Fisheries Science Center	Best Practices for Data Poor Stock Assessments

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
April 5 UW Fisheries 203	Andre Punt 1, Jim Ianelli2 1UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Stock Projections in Assessments
May 3 UW Fisheries 203	Ian Stewart NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Interfacing SS2 with R
May 17 UW Fisheries 203	Andre Punt & Teresa A'mar UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science	Fishery Management Strategy Evaluations
May 31 UW Fisheries 203	Lead by Anne Hollowed NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Evaluating the performance of Fishery Management Councils against the goals of ecosystem approaches to management, what is working and what remains to be fixed.
June 14 UW Fisheries 203	Ian Taylor1, Rick Methot2, and Carey McGilliard (tentative)1 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2NOAA, Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Spatial Issues in Stock Assessments

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
24 October UW Fisheries 106	Steve Barbeaux, Sandi Neidetcher, and Libby Logerwell NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Presentations for the Lowell Wakefield conference on gadids
7 November UW Fisheries 106	Stephani Zador1, Ann Edwards2 1UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Seabird and Fisheries Interactions
21 November UW Fisheries 106	André Punt UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science	Fishery Management Strategy Evaluations
5 December UW Fisheries 203	André Punt1, Martin Dorn2, Melissa Haltuch1 1UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Presentations for PFMC workshop on B0 and BMSY

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
9 January UW Fisheries 113	Isaac Kaplan and Chris Harvey NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Ecosystem modeling
23 January UW Fisheries 113	Rick Methot NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	SS2 (Stock Synthesis 2 assessment model)
6 February UW Fisheries 113	André Punt UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science	Ageing and age-reading analysis
20 February UW Fisheries 113	Kerim Aydin and Sarah Gaichas NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Discussion on Guénette et al. 2006 article
6 March UW Fisheries 203	Gavin Fay, Juan Valero, and Jason Cope UW School of Aquatic and Fishery Science	Stock Structure and Management

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
3 April UW Fisheries 113	Bruce Leaman1, Martin Dorn2, and Jim Ianelli2 1International Pacific Halibut Commission 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Eco-certification
17 April UW Fisheries 113	Ray Hilborn UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Surplus production and lost yield of PFMC-managed stocks
15 May UW Fisheries 113	Rod Hobbs NOAA - NMML	Cetacean population dynamics and stock assessments
29 May UW Fisheries 113	Isaac Kaplan1, Buck Stockhausen2, Tom Wilderbuer2, and Jack Turnock2 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Arrowtooth flounder stock assessments
12 June UW Fisheries 113	Nate Mantua1, Teresa A'mar2, and TBD 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2UW Quantitative Ecology and Resource Management	Stock assessments and climate variability

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
10 October UW Fisheries 203	Teresa A'mar1,2, Carrie Holt2, and Nate Mantua2 1UW Quantitative Ecology & Resource Management 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Incorporating impacts of climate variability in stock assessments and rebuilding plans
24 October UW Fisheries 106	Sarah Gaichas NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Fishing the Gulf of Alaska marine food web: do predator prey interactions imply ecosystem level thresholds?
	Doug Kinzey UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	A modeling framework to assess the effects of trophic interactions and fishing on three fish species in the Aleutians
	Jodie Little UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Pairing economic and ecological analyses of fishing impacts in the Northern California Current ecosystem model
07 November UW Fisheries 106	Noble Hendrix R2 Resource Consultants, Inc.	Bayesian Estimation of Humpback Whale (Megaptera novaeangliae) Population Abundance and Movement Patterns in Northern Southeast Alaska
21 November UW Fisheries 203	Toshihide Kitakado Tokyo University of Marine Science and Technology	Statistical population genetics and its application to fishery populations - estimation of population differentiation and mixture
05 December UW Fisheries 106	Discussion of Froese, R. 2004.	"Keep it simple: three indicators to deal with overfishing"

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
23 January UW Fisheries 106	Carey McGilliard, and Andre E. Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Evaluation of the Impact of Marine Protected Areas on Stock Assessment-based Fisheries Management
30 January UW Fisheries 106	Jason Cope1,2, Gavin Fay1, Melissa Haltuch1,2, and Michael Schirripa2 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Talks for 2008 Western Groundfish Conference
13 February UW Fisheries 106	Rick Methot1, Ian Taylor2 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Integrating tagging data into stock assessments
27 February UW Fisheries 106	Bill Clark International Pacific Halibut Commission	Pacific halibut stock assessment
12 March UW Fisheries 106	Gavin Fay1 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Spatial estimation of fish density/distribution

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Date	Speaker	Workshop Title
16 April UW Fisheries 106	Ian Stewart1, Jim Ianelli2 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Identifying appropriate sample size for composition data
30 April UW Fisheries 106	Ray Hilborn UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Defining overfished stocks: have we lost the plot? (this workshop will start at 1pm)
14 May UW Fisheries 106	Andre Punt UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Rebuilding Analyses for Groundfish: Prepare to be Puntalyzed
28 May UW Fisheries 106	Kerim Aydin1, and TBC 1NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	BSIERP - Bering Sea Integrated Ecosystem Research Program

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Date / Location	Speaker	Workshop Title
29 September UW Fisheries 203	Dawn Dougherty1, Jason Cope1,2 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Simulation modeling of the effects of variability in management and biological scales
27 October UW Fisheries 203	John Brandon1, Rick Methot2 1UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences 2NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Process error in marine mammal and fishery stock assessments
17 November UW Fisheries 203	Owen Hamel1 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Natural mortality in stock assessment models

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Date / Location	Speaker	Workshop Title
13 January UW Oc. Sci. 203	Anne Hollowed1, Z. Teresa A'mar2, N. Bond1, W. Stockhausen1, T. Wilderbuer1, J. Overland1 1NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Forecasting climate impacts
27 January UW Fisheries 314	Ian Taylor, Rick Methot NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center	Effect of different age morphs in Stock Synthesis
10 February UW Fisheries 106	Mike Canino1, Paul Spencer1, Anne Hollowed1, Andre Punt2 1NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Stock structure
10 March UW Fisheries 106	Megan Ferguson NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Quantifying bias and power in bowhead aerial survey data from the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas, 1982-2008

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Date / Location	Speaker	Workshop Title
30 March UW Fisheries 203	Jodie Little UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Multispecies bioeconomic modeling
13 April UW Fisheries 203	Olav Ormseth NOAA Alaska Fisheries Science Center	Managing multispecies complexes
27 April UW Fisheries 203	Kotaro Ono, Doug Kinzey UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Model reliability, performance metrics, and simulation results
11 May UW Fisheries 203	Tommy Garrison UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Can no-take marine protected areas improve stock assessments?
26 May (Tuesday) UW Fisheries 106	Vlada Gertseva1, Melissa Haltuch1, Andre Punt2 1NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center 2UW School of Aquatic & Fishery Sciences	Estimating ageing error matrices
1 June UW Fisheries 203	TBA